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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-25-2018, 11:15 AM Thread Starter
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VW promises extreme Golf R models

It looks like not only will Volkswagen be upping the performance in its R models, but even their electric cars wont be exempt from high performance trims. According to VW sales and marketing boss Jurgen Stackamann, the current GTI and R have conceded too much of a power deficit to rivals like the Focus RS and Civic Type R, but that will change in the next generation.
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The role of R is that it can go beyond the pure rational; nobody needs a compact car with 400bph, but there is a place, certainly, and that's the turf of R
It looks like we will finally get to see a production model of the Golf R 400 that debuted in Beijing back in 2014.


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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-25-2018, 12:01 PM
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The Golf R 400 was supposed to churn out around 400 ponies back when it was revealed and go from 0-62 mph in 3.9 seconds. It has been a few years, but the bulky design actually fit into today's hot hatch trends. If VW can deliver the concept's specs while making it the best daily driver around, then they could start coming out ahead in those car comparison reviews. Right now they always seem to lose to the RS or Type R.
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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-26-2018, 10:44 AM
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Glad to see that VW will be stepping things up in the new performance trims. If they can actually deliver on the 400hp powertrain, it will outclass that of any hot hatch currently on the market. With rumours that the next gen RS will get a 400hp hybrid powertrain, VW is going to have to pull out all the stops. I actually don't mind the design behind this older concept either.
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I wonder if they plan on delivering this kind of power with a TDI. Might be difficult to produce an engine with that kind of power that also delivers decent fuel economy. Would definitely be easier with a diesel engine, but hopefully VW is staying away from that.
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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-30-2018, 11:56 AM
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Maybe not 400 on the dot, but somewhere close to that amount of power and with the same kind of handling and ride-ability as the current gen Golf R that makes it such a well rounded vehicle on and off track. They don't necessarily have to go the diesel route because their competition is fine with petrol. Just down to if VW wants to spend that research and development money.
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-01-2018, 11:14 AM
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With hybrid and electric variants already being confirmed for the base Golf, I think its more than likely that we'll see some electric motors used in the R line as well. There will probably still be turbo diesel options for consumers in the UK, as I have heard whispers they have found another solution to emissions concerns.
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post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-01-2018, 11:54 AM
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If they can bypass the emissions problem then the diesel won't be leaving the Europe market anytime soon, at least not until VW can figure out how to make a powerful hybrid in a compact package like the Golf R. Diesels are great for low end torque, but that's something a motor can achieve as well.
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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-03-2018, 11:19 AM Thread Starter
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Even if they do manage to address emissions concerns, that will give them what? Maybe a generation of two of the new technology before it transitions to something electric. And just because they are going to run cleaner, doesn't change the fact that they are noisy.
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