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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-10-2018, 10:01 AM Thread Starter
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Worth looking at older Golf R's

For those who haven't heard, VW is being forced to turn down the power output on the current Golf R, due to tougher WLTP emissions in Europe. As a result the car has been brought back under 300bhp through a new remap. Those looking for the most value for their money may want to consider earlier models of the Golf R, which can now be found for around a quarter of the price. Hopefully with rumors suggesting the next gen Golf R being a hybrid, it wont be as susceptible to new emission regulations.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-10-2018, 08:10 PM
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Regulations around fuel consumption should be watched carefully because down the road it could mean that older Golf now is worth much less and costs more to own, not fun.
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post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-11-2018, 10:53 AM
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Golf R's are typically pretty good at maintaining their value, though I believe the older variants only have around 266hp on tap. With some aftermarket upgrades I'm sure that you could get that figure closer to current numbers however. Does that mean that getting an ECU tune will prevent your car from passing emissions?
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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-12-2018, 10:23 AM Thread Starter
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I'd personally steer clear of any aftermarket tunes, if they are being forced to throttle output due to new restrictions. The 266hp engines in the older variants are more than capable, and you could probably improve upon the numbers with a proper intake and exhaust system.
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post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-13-2018, 11:07 AM
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I did recently see a Golf R that's been equipped with a larger custom turbocharger, which has allowed it to reach upwards of 600hp. Don't think that kind of power is necessary for the average driver though. You'd never get to use it.
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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-16-2018, 05:33 AM
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On the bright side we probably got stronger engine internals to handle the power. As a daily driver it could be quite reliable and dependable compared to past generations and compared to other turbocharged vehicles out there. The Germans are known for overbuilding.
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-16-2018, 11:12 AM Thread Starter
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I think knowing that the vehicle is easily capable of delivering 300hp, and simply isn't due to a remap, wont really have an impact on sales. I'm sure that there will still be plenty of solid driving characteristics in relation to its handling and suspension.
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-17-2018, 10:45 AM
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There's not really much of a difference between 296 and 300hp, so the changes in performance will be negligible. Makes you wonder how much difference there could possibly be in emissions from a 4hp change.
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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-12-2018, 09:13 PM
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I guess the only end they can benefit is with marketing but given the crowd these target (real enthusiasts that aren't easily impressed by numbers).
Do you guys that certain ranges of power get your attention over others? Even if it was no more than face value of a product?
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-13-2018, 11:13 AM
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I think the Golf R is well established enough that people wont be all that concerned with figures. There is a lot more to a performance model than its power outputs. Braking, suspension and steering all come into play.
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